anonymous_sender wrote:ok just have to say, you misunderstood what i said entirely.. what i meant to say is that Sacha Bara Cohen is NOT AWARE OR RESPONSIBLE for helping push an elite agenda based on their own idealism.
I think my answer was totally within context. You're the one with the burden of proof to prove that Cohen was obliviously manipulated to break down cultures and unite them together as part of some elite agenda. You brought it up, not me.
anonymous_sender wrote:Why take such superficial shit and jump to such grand conclusions? I need not mention the "book by its cover" cliche...but damn. I used to work with a guy named Adolph...he was really a nice guy. But no one would be a nice person with a name like Adolph, right? He must've just been playing the role of a nice guy! Yeah, that's it! I'm onto his scheme now! This whole "scary name = bad person" is a childish fear response and would not be acceptable in almost any other given circumstance.
what grand conclusions?.. maybe it's you who has drawn grand conclusions on me.
Your grand conclusion is that because he has a funny or scary name, that his mysterious life was a lie and he was put out there by the elites to further their agenda, etc...
anonymous_sender wrote:[This sort of behavior is making me defend things I don't even like. I didn't even like the movie Bruno and I'm not happy with Obama's performance and am still harboring many complaints...but I'm not joining the ranks of an irrational opposition with no decent arguments and alternatives.
you defend what you choose to defend.
I wonder what will bring closure on this?.. perhaps if i stop treading on your territory.
Perhaps I'll tell you a little about myself, in that I no longer tolerate conspiracies as theories as much as I used to allow. I believe there's a lot of political corruption, but Kealey had took me so far in one direction, that I'm basically now backlashing against what I see as irrational and unsound conspiratorial arguments. Like the idea that you can look at someone's name and imagine you have the ability to "decode" their entire personality as part of a shadowy agenda; or that you can make a strong connection to a plot with some of the weakest and most insignificant piece of info available...I'm beyond all this now, and will attempt to shut it down if there's no reasonable evidence behind the claims.
Now, I'm not saying you're as extreme as Kealey at all and nor do I have anything against you personally. I'm just going after your ideas and requesting things to be a little more solid. So don't think I'm attacking you. I'm like this with anybody. MYM started this thread after I suggested to her, that the real problem to worry about is not so much Obama, as much as it is what will happen after Obama leaves, is voted out, or is forcefully removed from office.
Cause quite frankly, Obama's opposition is so paranoid and angry right now, that I can see it as a recipe for future disaster. I suggested to her, that if the economy were to totally fallout and collapse, that the government might be replaced by a type of populous religious fascism. And from there, she responded to me with this thread, basically saying that I was wrong and that Obama is already the fascism trying to create a Nazi youth movement by his upcoming speaking event to school children.
MYM, wasn't the only person at the time to suggest this too me as well. But I had friends tell me how terrible it was that Obama was gonna go indoctrinate the children, the political message boards and youtube videos were outraged that Obama could do such a thing...but then when the time came, all Obama basically did was say, "stay in school, get good grades to help your country." and Fox News (the media wing of the Republican party) reported the event as if Obama walked into a school classroom with a suicide bomber's vest strapped to his chest. The event was report with such feverish resentment that it's obvious to anyone that's following how this unfolds, that there's an element of the public that's basically war drumming a call to arms. The problem I see, is that this oppositional revolution, if it were to succeed, would be more severe and dogmatic than the worst aspects of the Bush administration. And I definitely do not approve of this happening.
Last night, doing a bit of research, I found out about Frank Schaeffer. A man who decades ago, helped to create the religious-right movement in America, who is now regretting he ever did it because of how extreme they've become. check out this video - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
And although Schaeffer is new to me, his ideas about the extreme right wing opposition is not. Because it's easy to see how this is developing. I have more to say about this and how it relates to the religiosity of conspiracy theory culture, maybe I'll get to it later, but I'm done typing atm. And don't worry about treading. Your thoughts and opinions are welcomed