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    Post by Lucid Memes on Sun May 17, 2009 8:15 am

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    Interesting series of sci-fi books, eh?

    The Neanderthal Parallax Trilogy: Hominids, Humans & Hybrids

    by Danny Sullivan on December 16, 2005


    Some long flights and airport waiting to and from Chicago last week gave me time to whip through The Neanderthal Parallax, a trilogy of books from one of my favorite SF authors, Robert J. Sawyer. It’s a great alternative history/universe romp.

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    Hominids kicks it off, with a Neanderthal suddenly appearing in the middle of a neutrino detection tank in Canada. Nope, not a spear waving, meat-cooking-over-fire stereotype. This is a Neanderthal scientist Ponter Boddit, who got kicked out of his alternative world and into ours due to a quantum computer experiment he and his partner were conducting.

    In Ponter’s version of Earth, it was humans — homo sapiens (or homo sapiens sapiens apparently) — that died out. Ponter turns out to be surprised we could even have survived due to our smaller brains. Ponter’s world is also pretty utopian-like. There are less than half-a-billion people, due to zero population growth maintained through regular generations allowed to be born every 10 years. The result is lots of nature, low industrialization and no pollution. Crime is pretty much non-existent due to the "Companions" embedded in everyone’s arms that record all they do.

    The society is also unique. Woman live separately from men except for during "Two Become One," when men come into the women’s areas when they are all just past their periods and thus not fertile. Since they all live together — and are extremely sensitive to pheromones due to their greater sense of smell — the women all have synchronized menstrual cycles.

    What about the remaining part of the month? In addition to having a different sex partner, each Neanderthal also has a same sex one. So Ponter has both a husband and a wife, if you will (they use different terms). His wife has a wife; his husband also has a wife.

    We come off pretty strange. The biggest Neanderthal war involved a shocking 800 or so deaths. Ponter nearly goes into shock when reading about our wars. The smells of pollution hit him strong, and we seem pretty uncivilized and illogical. But then again, he’s deeply impressed that we’ve been to the moon. The Neanderthals have no space flight at all, an area they’ve simply not expanded into.

    Most of the book deals with his growing relationship with a geneticist and comparing and contrasting Earths. Back in Ponter’s world, his partner goes on trial accused of murder. Their quantum computing facility was deep underground, so there is no companion recording to prove his innocence.

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    Humans is the sequel, the middle book of the trilogy. Ponter’s made it back home, and a bridge is opened up between the two worlds. He now begins an actual relationship with the geneticist, Mary Vaughan. She suffered a rape in the earlier book, and that develops out into an unexpected way as Ponter eventually finds and confronts her attacker. Relations between the two worlds also expand as more Neanderthals come over and begin interacting with scientists and politicians. Meanwhile on our side, the head of a US think tank begins leaving you worried about his real intentions.

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    Hybrids concludes the trilogy. Mary’s attacker is still around but changed in a variety of ways, physically and mentally. Ponter and Mary seek a way to have a baby, a challenge when he has 24 chromosomes and she 23. The issue of God, which runs throughout all the books, hits a crisis point. Mary’s a devout Catholic. Neanderthals have no belief in a god at all — and as it turns out, no "god organ" in the brain that reacts to magnetic effects that the book makes out to be why our type of human believe in greater powers. Should Mary’s child have this god organ or not? Meanwhile, the think tank guy proves he’s definitely no good, and much more happens and gets resolved.

    Overall, it’s great reading, probably even more so if you’re a Canadian. Instead of everything taking place in the US, Sawyer, a Canadian author, has the action firmly in Canada.

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    Post by Extant on Sun May 17, 2009 9:13 am

    From a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] on this trilogy:

    The barast world has a single government hierarchy: each region of the globe is governed by a local Grey Council; these in turn answer to the High Grey Council, the world government.

    About eight decades before the time of the novels, companion implants were perfected and issued to all barasts. These are comprehensive recording and transmission devices, mounted in the forearm of each person. Their entire life is constantly monitored and sent to their alibi archive, a repository of recordings that are only accessible by their owner, or by the proper authorities when investigating an infraction, and in the latter case only in circumstances relevant to the investigation.

    Interesting synchronicities here. Watt always talked about the "gray men" (I don't know if Kealey did/does) and Kealey did choose to have one Kealey Paper cover featuring the typical gray alien representing troglodytes "dumbing down JTF-6 Freemasons" (whatever the hell that is).

    I think I remember Watt claiming that the gray alien thing was another inside elite joke and had nothing to do with real aliens.

    And there is this instant communication devices that Kealey calls "tellus" (tell-us) similar to the "allibi archive" of these books.

    Of course the first book didn't come out till 2002 and The Kealey Papers came out from about 1998 onwards, but I haven't seen the Kealey Papers to know exactly what is them; what (if anything) has been added to the Kealey "mix" since then.
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    Post by Lucid Memes on Sun May 17, 2009 9:22 pm

    I wish Pixie would come here to comment on this in more detail.

    Apparently she has read the 1st book recently and knows of more parallels between this story and Kealey/Watt's interpretation


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    Post by intrepidpixie on Fri May 22, 2009 1:08 am

    Preston wrote:I wish Pixie would come here to comment on this in more detail.


    Im here. Very Happy

    Yeah, I started reading this book last year when I was perusing the net for information on Neanderthals. So I decidded to pick it up at the bookstore because of the general synopsis of the book. Basically, it is about a Neanderthal physicist who suddenly appears in the Sudbury Neutrino Laboratory Creighton Mine shaft in Ottawa Canada. Sudbury is where Alan Watt lives, by the way. Very Happy . This is a real place and is apparently is one of the deepest mine shaft in the world- 2 miles deep. The synopsis of the book indicates that the Neanderthal appears fom some other dimension, but hte plot meanders in such a way that the author is really suggesting that this Neanderthal comes to earth from directly below the mine shaft. At any rate, the Neanderthal is from an advanced civilization who are governed by a central computer, and the language that they speak, hmm, well, the actual words in the book are very similar to Euskara ( Basque)

    Now about the author: Robert J. Sawyer. This guy is the only in-resident author at some science facility in Ottawa ( forgot the name of the facility) which is the sister facility to the one in CERN Switzerland. I was researching this facility a while back, and it is the one where Stephen Hawkings apparently got a new job at and was suppose to be moving there until he became "gravely ill". I think he is still battling complications from his neurological affliction in some hospital somewhere, or at least last I heard in early May. Stephen Hawkings isn`t really pertinent to this story, except to the extent that this facility is.
    Robert J. Sawyer is no ordinary sci fi author. He , and I quote "gives the Canadian Government counsel on which ways the genetics laws should be shaped in Canada". Why the hell is person who writes science fiction novels giving the Government advice on such matters? He won the Victor Hugo award for the first installment of the Neanderthal Parallax. If you read the book, there is nothing that would stand out to you by way of literary brilliance- it`s just a quaint and fantastical tale about an advanced race of Neanderthals. Authors don`t win those kinds of awards for nothing. Someone is trying to push this trilogy into the publics eye- but why? Predictive programming? I believe he got the plot line from "elsewhere". I am not making any connection here with Kealey, but something about this particular plot and its parallels to Kealey`s theory about an advanced race of Neanderthals I find rather fishy. I haven`t read the 2nd or 3rd parts of the trilogy yet, so I dont don`t what else to say, but the first one is worth the read, and quite entertaining at that!
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    Post by Extant on Fri May 22, 2009 5:51 am

    Interesting pixie, let us know if you get on to the other books. Some strong parallels and synchronicities with both Kealey and Watt there. I wonder if they're more than just that?
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    Post by intrepidpixie on Sat May 23, 2009 3:21 am

    Winston_Smith wrote:Interesting pixie, let us know if you get on to the other books. Some strong parallels and synchronicities with both Kealey and Watt there. I wonder if they're more than just that?

    Will do Winston. Here are some interesting facts about Richard Sawyer and interviews that he has done over the years. He is a proponent of the creepy crowds plans. He seems like a agent of the elite to me.

    1) On March 17, Robert J. Sawyer was one of 15 people, and the only author, brought to Ottawa by the Canadian federal government's Department of Justice for its "Genetics Futures Forum" to discuss what Canadian law should be in relation to biotechnology, stem-cell research, cloning, and the privacy of personal genetic information. Other participants included geneticists, ethicists, law professors, a theologian, and Bob McDonald, the host of CBC Radio's science program Quirks and Quarks.

    2) Sawyer is one of Canada's best known and most successful science fiction writers. He is the only Canadian (and one of only 7 writers in the world) to have won all three of the top international awards for science fiction: the 1995 Nebula Award for The Terminal Experiment, the 2003 Hugo Award for Hominids, and the 2006 John W. Campbell Memorial Award for Mindscan.He prefers the label "philosophical fiction," but in no way sees himself as a predictor of the future.

    Interviewer: Inquiry about immortality and space travel

    Sawyer: Of course, you can't have immortality, continued births, and no space program. Going hand-in-hand with living extremely long lives is the need to move out into the universe; you can't have an infinitely expanding population confined to a little hunk of rock.The human race could certainly use some people who've had centuries to develop perspective and wisdom.


    Interviewer: These Neanderthals also live is a society that is without any religion at all. What drove you to visualize such a society?

    Sawyer: Everything about my Neanderthal culture is drawn from the actual paleoanthropological record. We used to believe that Neanderthals buried their dead with flowers, indicating perhaps a belief in an afterlife, and that they worshipped cave bears. But both of those notions have been totally discredited. The truth is that even 10,000 years after our own ancestors -- Homo sapiens -- had developed religious notions, the Neanderthals had not.That said, certainly I had a fictive agenda in exploring this. The idea that any intelligent species must develop religion is sort of a knee-jerk belief for us; I don't think it's necessarily true, though. And religion is responsible for so much of what goes on in our world.


    Interviewer: The advances in computers, genetics and medical science are creating huge quantities of data on people. Do you see us losing any semblance of privacy, and to what extent do you find our loss of privacy a detriment to society?

    Sawyer: Yeah, I'm with Scott McNealy of Sun Microsystems, who said, "You have zero privacy anyway. Get over it." There's just no way to preserve traditional privacy, so let's find the advantages of the new paradigm: constant monitoring means the end of rape, child abuse, assault, theft, money laundering, and so on.

    Interviewer: Was setting this book ( W.W.W- Wake) in locations all over the planet (China, Japan, Canada, the USA, Israel, etc.) meant as an allegory to the World Wide Web which also plays a prominent role in the book?

    Sawyer: Totally. You can’t write about the World Wide Web without being global. Let’s not forget that the Web was invented at CERN, which is a huge multinational facility that straddles the border between France and Switzerland—it would be hard to think of a more appropriate birthplace for it.

    Pixie: Did anyone know that the internet was developed at the CERN facility? Hmm..
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    Post by Extant on Sat May 23, 2009 1:09 pm

    intrepidpixie wrote:Pixie: Did anyone know that the internet was developed at the CERN facility? Hmm..

    Yep. And not too long ago Tim Berners-Lee made a statement at the official media opening coverage of CERN to the effect that the internet needs to be regulated because of "irresponsible conspiracy theories".

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    Post by intrepidpixie on Tue May 26, 2009 4:59 am

    Kealey`s Neanderthal musings could be allegorical. Do any of us really believe that an advanced race of cavemen went underground at the onset of the last iceage only to leave their slaves the capacity to develop nuclear weapons that could bring about their demise in some future millenia? They would have had to have interbred with their slaves- 2 distinct species, one slightly superior. Kealeys "theory" is rather whimsical if taken literally. For his ideas to be taken seriously at all, this advanced race ( whatever you wish to call them) would have to still be among us. Some paleontologists think they are.....

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    Post by splinters on Tue May 26, 2009 10:13 am

    the greys AW referred to where the technocratic NGO class, the guys that arent bound by laws or government, but change the rules they wish to play by at will. They walk between the black and white squares on a checkerboard.

    Interesting to see the greys as regional leaders!

    This author is an interesting character indeed, great backstory research guys
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    Post by Lucid Memes on Wed May 27, 2009 8:22 am

    Thanks for this information Pixie

    An advanced neanderthal race might be a metaphor for something also. I remember Kealey saying that Stephen Hawkings is the perfect analogy for a neanderthal. Someone who is superior mentally, but so physically useless that computers are needed for him to even communicate. So this connection between an advanced neanderthal people connected to a central computer underground (from the ideas of Kealey and Sawyer), compared to a computerized Stephen Hawkings at Cern (with advanced underground facilities) is an interesting one

    Also, that area in Canada seems to be a hot spot for this type of information. An agenda here is surely worth consideration.


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